I ran a corner thru the trigger and around the other side up the grip. All the out of battery safeties do is, in one way or another, block the hammer from providing that energy to the pin until the gun is fully locked into battery. The off hand comment was to the effect of glocks being less safe to carry with a round in the chamber than others. Only ONE centerfire pistol? Thats all Colt added to the series 80, the internal firing pin block. If you are so uncomfortable with a Glock as a fully loaded and chambered self defense gun, why do you own one? You just have to scroll down to it. Correct. and yes i train and rehearse that Training is nothing more than repetition. So, there are at least 2 actions required to get a round to fire after removing it from a pocket. Maybe I counted wrong? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. If something else provides that energy to the pin, the primer wont care whether its in a chamber or not. When I was a lot younger, I was riding horses with some friends. People that just cant accept what someone else wants to do compared to what they feel is best for them smacks of their insecurity. So F_____g what? Second, they also trained. You carry your way and Ill carry mine. I thing Mossad guys are well trained, just saying. Nope. I submit extremely unlikely. Sounds a lot like a problem created by attorneys to have something to sue over, doesnt it? Granted, is loading a pistol, a shotgun or a rifle the most complicated thing in the world? Im not a big believer in the the bad guy will just take your gun and use it against you school of thought. You could also chamber a snap cap, holster it, do your daily routine around the house and then check if trigger was pulled. Anything is possible, which is why the smart move is to play to the best probabilities. Just that for most every use, there are other choices that are better. Pray the opponent was just carrying a Taser and not a knife. Quick easy to access and small enough for the P365, a spare magazine, and a small 300 Lumen Tac Light. In the case of a fast draw in a conflict, you dont have time to check, but you still have time to keep your finger out of the trigger guard. A GLOCK does not have an external manual safety. If thats a problem, dont carry a firearm. Options are good. Here we have a conundrum. Empty chamber is one option, but there are others. First a 5906, then a PPK/S for 20 years. I hope r.i.p is on your tombstone if you fail in a confrontation. this aint 1902 with a Colt .38 Long primitive revolver and you probably aint riding a horse in pursuit of cattle thieves. When suddenly a rabbit rushes out of the brush, I sometimes forget to switch off the safety. So lets just say its a personal choice and your way isnt better than mine, but I will never accidently shoot my leg or foot. The S&W EZ has a grip safety and a good trigger pull. As for the replicas, these are hit-and-miss when it comes to carrying on an empty chamber. Glock dominates the handgun market in both the United States and around the globe. Usually for at least an hour or so. To fire the pistol, the trigger safety and the trigger itself must be deliberately depressed at the same time. The odds are not in favor of the added time it takes to try and chamber a round, let alone the stress of a real situation. For gun owners looking to maximize the life of their firearms, it's important to understand what type of ammunition is acceptable and safe to use in their guns. But it used to work fine, a year or so before that. Various firearms but could go to dagger, spear, sword and buckler, longsword, or smallsword if for some reason one of those seemed like a good idea. Or would it it take more movement of the slide to do that before an impact could trigger potential discharge? I once owned 12 of them. Two is one, one is none. Mr Hoober, If you werent too busy arrogantly doubling down, you might consider trying it some time instead of pretending you know everything but I suppose you are probably more interested in getting audience engagement than giving good advice. This is not remotely comparable to carrying a semiauto with an empty chamber, where the slide must be racked to make the gun ready to fire. However, that also creates issues. The innovative design of the hybrid steel-polymer slide chambered in our first .22 caliber round provides a lightweight and low recoil functionality for optimal control. This subject is DOA just like the OP. It may be injured or busy striking or holding back children, etc. While the bad guy is picking up the decoy gun and trying to shoot you with it, you draw your real piece with a round loaded. Do u know what the 21 foot rule is? Certified Glock Armorer, Colt Armorer, FN Armorer, Beretta Armorer, Smith and Wesson revolvers Armorer. Not having a bullet in the chamber would make a discharge in the holster impossible. Theres a problem with absolutism: youre proven wrong too easily. The Glock Gen 4 and Gen 5 models have become very popular with civilians and self-defense shooters alike. Is it just something one has to get used to? "The mountains are calling and I must go." Safety rule number 1 a gun is always loaded. OH NO! Therefore, its unsafe(ish) to carry or store with one in the chamber. Which, of course, is why its better to keep your self-defense gun be it a concealed carry pistol or home defense gun or whatever with a round in the chamber. Only, dumb guys wouldnt understand that. And make sure when you holster or unholster that the holster is clear of obstructions. Jordan has taught marksmanship, woodsmanship, and self-defense classes. Usually I just get to see Colt SAAs with 16 chamber cylinders. They have defense of the State, of their comrades, or of other citizens.. Victoria: I did find a workaround though. He thinks one big long post thats all one sentence is not a mistake. Just bookmark the page you commented on, and then check back once in a while. They make it look soooo easy in the movies! Is It Safe To Carry A Chambered Glock. Let's talk about wh. Good username though. In the past, I've heard people say they aren't comfortable carrying a loaded firearm on them or want to just scare people away. Beyond being "The Original" Glock, which won the company favor with the Austrians then the world, the Glock G17 is arguably the most popular Glock pistol model on the planet.. For those afraid of carrying cocked and locked or striker-fired guns, the XD-E is a better choice than chamber-empty carry. Ive been carrying mine daily for five years and will continue to carry it as long as I can. Human brains arent too sure of themselves, and if an expected result does not occur, our brain responds by doing the action again, just to make sure it did it the first time. This has nothing to do with car=privilege firearm=right. Both have pros and cons the secret is you must be well versed to bringing your gun up to the level of lethal quickly. And its nowhere near so light a trigger pull that you could just bump it and it fires. I have no issue using any of my Glocks as a SD gun, nor do I have any issue using any of my 1911s, any of my revolvers, or any of my other guns. Not thinking human beings. It is a DAO and . 30 years carrying, 20 in the military with 6 combat deployments. Im so glad to have seen the one person who never makes a mistake! Its an unsafe design from 2 aspects, the fact that it acts much like a single action weapon with the hammer cocked back and no manual safety and it has a totally unsafe asinine take down system. I cant believe this is even a subject for discussion. We keep our mouths shut, myob, and avoid praising glocks. If you want one of it, you must like it, so why wouldnt you want more? I have no worries about the gun going off when holstering it or even worse going off by itself while in the holster as many Glocks have done when a fold of the holster got snagged inside the trigger guard. Let's dive into the depths of insanity when it comes to concealed carry myths. the department said it was the pistols fault. However, with an unchambered semi-auto, that may be a more credible concern. But now I get 18! Itll never come out to get cleaned, the retention will never fail, the gun will never fall out when you unbelt to take a crap in other words you dont make mistakes. Since its a bookmark and not a save, it will go there and update to the latest info. The Glock 17M and Glock 19X are two designs with Gen 5 features. The end result is the same, but the means to that end are directly opposite in how they function. Now, to rein in this trip into the weeds. 3.Is it Safed to Carry a Glock With one in the Chamber - Gun Tradition. I was shown( Thank You RES), yank that sucker out, moveaim, fire. NO - any responsible gun owner should have some reservation until enough information has been provided. While millions of Americans keep and/or bear GLOCKs and GLOCK-like striker-fired pistols without mishap, mishaps do sometimes occur.Let's face it: the average gun owner has lousy trigger discipline. Many striker/plastic pistols, like the S&W Sygma, have actual DA triggers, that do not use glocks UN safe-action trigger scheme. But, IF I were, then Id have to choose that DA revolver in my headboard. In a way, the GLOCK trigger is similar to a double action revolver trigger. Back in the old days of guns, they didnt really have any safety at all. Im not interested in Israeli carry of a firearm. Why You Should Keep One Bullet in the Chamber. Whats a fleshlight? No wait . Thats not a very fresh idea. IMO, anyway. People who carry them are so rare that I felt like it wasnt worth mentioning, and Im probably still right. This is why. I got rid of that one, I didnt really need it, but now, sigh, I wish I had it back. A great capability, because a dud round will usually fire upon a second strike, and your finger is going to automatically do that anyway. So the trigger pull is utterly irrelevant *if* you are paying attention to your firearm which you should be doing, again, with *any* firearm. If soft iwb holster freaks you out then get a nice, quality leather or kydex holster. To the point I know I can unholster, rack, and have my tritium dots centered on some perps forehead before they know whats coming. Subscribe and receive the latest information on GLOCK products and more. If all you do at the range is stand there at the bench, pick up your gun, lock the slide, insert the magazine, and press the slide stop to send the slide forward, then get on target to shoot, you're not training yourself right. Mr. Hoober, the only quibble I have with this article is the assumption that people only have a (as in singular) home defense gun. The firearm entered Austrian military and police service by 1982 after becoming the top performer in reliability and safety tests.. Glock pistols have become the company's most profitable line of products, and have been supplied to . You've only seen one page. That is a good point that I have never heard before. the first two rules of safe gun handling are Dont touch the trigger until you are ready to shoot, and dont point it at anything you dont want to destroy. Modern handguns are designed to be carried with a loaded chamber. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY AND ONLY ONE WAY TO CARRY A GLOCK SAFELY AND THAT IS WITH AN EMPTY CHAMBER PERIOD AND THERE CAN BE ZERO ARGUMENT ABOUT THAT IF YOU ARE STILL IN CONTROL OF YOUR MENTAL FACULTIES AND NOT LIVING IN A NARCISSISTIC FANTASY WORLD OF GLOCK UTOPIA. How often do you train your driving abilities?. It has a safety, but I dont really care about that. Maybe you should just use a spork. The Last Word. It should stay the way it is. Do not ever suggest they change a true classic. Nothing is more dangerous than a little knowledge. Do you supposes THIS guy knows the six letter word for a firearms dangerous end? Is A Glock Safe To Carry Chambered. Here's my situation: Carrying the pistol with a round in the chamber freaks me out. Vlad as always you are full of stupid.most semi auto today are Glock wannabes I have carried a Glock 21 for years I fast draw hip shoot and yes stupid Vlad I always carry with one in the chamber, Vlad as always you are full of stupid.most semi auto today are Glock wannabes I have carried a Glock 21 for years I fast draw hip shoot and yes stupid Vlad I always carry with one in the chamber, Your rants always remind me of that long ago cartoon show. so i compensate for that with situational awareness and trying not to put myself in situations or places where that will happen Nor with his next, more significant error, suggesting that floating or inertial firing pin guns (like a 1911) ARE drop safe with a round in the chamber, even though all such firearms with a round in the chamber WILL fire if dropped on their muzzle? Some of the biggest mistakes happen when training at sex. The chamber under the hammer of any carried revolver is *irrelevant* for the first shot, since cocking the hammer of an SA or pulling the trigger on a DA advances the next chamber to the firing position. PS: There was a 12 yo kid recently that subdued an attacker with a common socket wrench after Dad missed 39 times with a pistol. the number of people out there who keep a single-action revolver as a home defense. Then I chambered a round. If carry my Glock its in a solid Crossbreed holster with one in the chamber. I now carry without it, with one in the pipe. . It made me feel extremely uncomfortable. You always have time to do that. I got to 8 feet off the floor and a Series-70-style 1911 clone would not ignite the primer. A typing error, or wishful thinking? OthersI just didnt think about and for some pretty good reasons. Go peddle your homosexual fantasies elsewhere. The first Glock safety that you will interact with is the trigger safety, which takes the form of a spring-loaded lever located in the center of the trigger. I appendix carry my 42 chambered, the holster covers the trigger so I feel safe carrying this way, I been carrying this way for a while without issue. But, on the bright side, ammoland just revamped their comment section so comments now dont take days/never to show up. I have done special work to lighten my trigger and its still not very touchy. You might like it. They will not fire unless someone puts their finger on the trigger and squeezes. ADs by glockinstine operators usually are extracting their golden goose with or wit out a pocket holster, by placing their finger, as so many comments referred to above, on the trigger upon extraction. I think five guns is the bare minimum, and thats how I always answer the one gun question. I agree about the Colt SAA. I can cycle the bolt almost as fast as I can take the safety off, even when I stepped on a black bear who was sleeping under a downed tree. I assume the manual safety was also engaged, but such a strap on the holster sounds pretty good, as well! (Some chance remains, of course, given extraordinary circumstances that can be described but have statistically no chance of happening.). Glocks have a trigger pull of 5-1/2 to 6 pounds. Its your right to be retarded. At least until the computer catches up and opens multiple copies. Seems more in line with your abilities. I am pretty tired of people telling me how to handle my weapons. Like what would happen if the gun was dropped, and then lands on its muzzle. I learned to drive on the streets of San Francisco with a van as a teenager when my mom wanted me to drive her around. sounds like bullshat urban legend.. One observation concerning all the keyboard commandos here they seem to make the assumption that people primarily carry guns in preparation for a gunfight, and this is not always true. Next, there was some discussion about GLOCKs. That being said, I also carry a M&P 9mm with one in the chamber. Odds of the shooter getting 4 shots off would be pretty low. But Knute is fine, and nobody else seems to want it. Almost as good as a ball peen hammer. Reply Quote. I dont understand why anyone who carries a modern firearm is afraid to carry a round in the chamber??? Heres a link to it. After a few years of working on them self-taught, I finally . I will always carry chambered because I keep my fingers where they belong and therefore don't worry about it. Of course an ND is user error, but why is the gun designed to make that error likely?

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