This course setup for the AMA is assuming a perfectly optimal drive by the golfer so in theory 395 yards would be a maximum length for the AMA based on 50% GIR. But he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. wrong? show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. First of all, I would always encourage any golfer to get custom fitted for Titleist Vokey wedges because the loft/bounce/grind chart can be very confusing. Of course, playing shorter courses seems very obvious if you want to improve performance. [quote name='J.W.' That smash factor surprises me a bit. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. I genuinely believe Vokeys make me a better bunker player, the SM8s changed my bunker game and these are just as good. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE As you can guess my improvement has now become dependent on driver efficiency and distance. X-Forged UT (#3- 21)- DG X700 WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ball Speed - 185 mph[/background][/size][/color] a higher loft) than the actual degree loft number shown on their club. 4 out of 1000 swings avg 117 mph? But if you take the averages over a season you are going to get more than a good idea of how far the pros are hitting each club. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? In 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. Paste as plain text instead, WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas ! My average driving distance is 240 but IF I can make a shot in the sweet spot (Stars Aligned after a long Prayer) I can go 290 to 300 measured on the golf course. Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom, 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) My taylermade aero burner average distance is 330 yards on a good day 364 yards. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] Shafts: KBS Tour 125 S+, Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 (50-09SB, 54-11SB, 60-08LB) Their experiences, time away from family, and willingness to sacrifice their lives for our freedom has truly made an impact on Justin. The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. [/quote] Sorry for the ramble. I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. TrackMan I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. Mike Austins Secret Release Move to Multiply Your Clubhead Speed. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Thats 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340-345. Most golfers think that the guys on the PGA Tour hit the ball incredibly long. Little higher launch, still low spin into the wind, and much easier to swing day in and day out. Justin came from 7 strokes back to start the final round at the 2022 PGA Championship which ties the largest final round comeback in PGA Championship history. And also wondering how LPGA fits into this chart. There is nothing worse than getting the club stuck in the ground at impact. [/quote] Cameron Napa California @ 34"[/b]. I visited Hillside GC practice ground to have a full custom fitting session with the new SM9s. The previous table looked at the approach distance the AMA will have based on hole length and average drive distance. Ive hit greens from 210 out with a 20 degree hybrid. In 2019, he launched the Justin Thomas Foundation, aimed to help military families, junior golf and children in need. And a good part of the reason for that is the average golfer often watches with wonder as the best players on the PGA GolfingFocus.com was created simply as a place to allow us to try and find answers to common golfing questions asked, and problems faced, by all standards of golfer. Also, the dispersion for misses will be much wider for the AMA than the professional. What Determines Driver Distance? [/quote] My total yardage for my 7 iron is 190, my ball speed is 119 mph. 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 The Honda Classic - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to all photos, 2023 HSBC Women's World Championship (Mar 02 - 05), Byron Morgan best for your balls DH89 & the elusive DBCM 8802, TWO PUTTERS - ONE POST. I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. Scotty Cameron SS Newport Beach w/ UST Frequency Filter and Rosemark Thorn 1.52 grip. Overall I cant fault these wedges for an elite player as we are aware of the slight differences of feel at strike, flight and contact with the ground. get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. This philosophy has been a revelation to me. In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. Jon has proven that he is able to compete at the work on your short game. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] (Unimpededof course, because we always were able to play during the week). http://web.tigerwoods.com/onTour/seasonStatistics. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. It takes a detailed plan and it takes time, and this is why I think the improvement of AMAs isnt as impressive as it could be. Their drives seem to always go miles and I dont know about you but Im always checking myself to think whether I indeed heard the commentator correctly that they are actually hitting that high an iron for that 200+ yard approach shot. [/quote] Master the Swing Plane and Handle Path for Increased Distance and Accuracy! I hit a green today which was 163 so pulled a 6 iron landed on back part of the green 10 yds past the flag. Theyre familiar and consistent, you wont see Bob Vokey ever designing a wedge with a high toe or full face of grooves. When it comes to his mid-irons he hits his 6-iron and 7-iron 195 and 180 yards. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] I have completely lost my iron swing due to injury and need a swing coach as well as does your program cover this as well? If golfers are to continue playing the same length tees, then optimizing their driver distance is going to be key to enhancing their performance. Titleist 712 CB 4-9, MB PW KBS Tour (HS1X) With the AMA averaging 30 yards less than his potential, there is a lot of room for improvement. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. Please limit the number of items and requests. I feel like a lot of AMs sacrifice strike for the extra 1-2 mph which ultimately leads to less distance. But mostly, when playing for the money, they dont. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. Im 65 years old. After reading this article I did more research and discovered I should be playing nearly 1200 yards shorter, and doing so without shame. It's the short game. This is really intersting reading and I could not agree more with the finding your distance principal. Launch Angle 11.28 Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high I play off 8 at a championship course 7200 yards in the UK. He is traditional in what he wants the wedge to look like. And I suppose they hit it relatively far, but nearly the distances that the public thinks. xV#+D7xEouj|_\ctk--[ne5a|N}x^. Either way I don't care. However the pros have what is called a stock yardage for their irons, which equates essentially to the average distance they will hit a full shot with each iron swinging normally. On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. I grabbed the 46 degree to see if I could finally be that 3 wedge Vokey golfer, it was so good I asked for an entire iron set of Vokeys. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. I spent a year playing by myself getting lessons finding a swing and just focused on having fun. How Far Should You Hit a Driver? The above statements were [i]only[/i] about length. Please have a look at this video about Smash Factor. I often feel articles such as this are skewed. Its important for me to have a 58 degree that works first and foremost in a bunker and then to chip with, because I use my 52 to chip with more often than not as I like to see the ball on the ground and rolling towards the hole so it has a chance of dropping in. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. %PDF-1.5 WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ Probably because he plays a higher spin ball than most. The 22 years old Jon Rahm, is one of the new upcoming stars on the European and PGA Tour. it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. Pasted as rich text. If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. And that was 12 years ago. The SMs have been nurtured and feel just beautiful at impact, the GW is super consistent with full shots and the chip and run. Dustin Johnson can hit a putter 400 yards When it comes to looking at how far the pros hit their wedges the stock yardage they hit each club is again obviously only one of the multiple yardages they can hit the most versatile clubs in any players golf bag. Unless of course it's short enough to hit the 3 wood or driver at the green. The materials are superb and generate fantastic feedback on the strike through the head, shafts, grip and into your hands. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. I'm planning to change my irons this year after a number of years but before heading straight to a club fitter to test out all the latest and greatest models I thought it would be interesting to take What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? Great read with invaluable data and information. This analysis seems to be for elite athletes. I would say probably is bs. How Far Does a 3 Wood vs 5 Wood Go? He was also the beneficiary of a grant that afforded him the opportunity to travel and pursue his junior golf career. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high Now that you guys have more and more data from the combine tests are you going to adjust the hcap chart. beginer level female golfer how to to benefit ths..is this correct this tracker.. Love all of this data and seeing exactly what the correlation is between the data and player performance! They are clean and contemporary. Official driving distance is only measured on two holes per round, which means you might get 50-60 shots in a year. [/quote] Mine isnt that much higher and i hit driver 275 yards. So next time the announcer says that someone is hitting a 5 iron from 223, keep in mind that its mostly conditions, and note where the ball actually carries. Sorry that I can not be of better help right now. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Grip: SuperStroke Traxion Flatso 1.0. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364416375' post='6708959'] Thanks. The 56 to 62 grooves are wider and shallower for chipping and lob shots. You can check the combine driver stats here: https://mytrackman.com/#combine. Stay up to date and receive free notifications of new posts by email. Club Speed 113 mph Ball Speed 166 mph Attack Angle -1 deg Launch Angle 12 deg Spin Rate 2298 rpm Ping Glide 2.0 (54) DG S400 TI Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Wedges: Cobra Trusty Rusty (50, 55), Tour Trusty (60) As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph., The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400. Your email address will not be published. [/quote] Honestly many guys in this small % sort of make every other golfer feel like that . [/quote] [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Hamish777, March 26, 2013 in WRX Club Techs. As the previous poster said Im 43 so wont be Bubba Watson anytime soon. [/quote] I think you wish you hit it further. How about heading out to Wedgefield in Georgetown, SC? I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. So much so that if I'm 220 out, a distance I can reach with a perfect 5 wood, ill hit to 50, pitch, putt, par and drive you insane. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. When its hit well I have hit enough times in the 260-270 range so Im probably in that 95 mph swing speed range. If it was published in a journal as well, please could you direct me to where I could find it. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. He is giving up 30 yards of total distance off the tee, which makes his approach shots more difficult. When you take the wedge out of the bag you notice the fuller toe, and there is more material behind the head. The AMA has a reported handicap of 14 or 15. If it's a really short par 4, I will hit an iron, hybrid, or fairway wood to play to that ideal distance range. I must say to the trap draw crowd, Justin Thomas isn't hitting trap draws while winning tournaments on the PGA Tour. He doesn't have the luxury of Get off the elite courses and look at the ones where people are paying maybe $45 to play, not $200+. why you did not work that out or your friends did not suggest it I dont know. Elite level Trackman Golf Coaching from Expert & Award winning coaches, Scott and Jamie Howarth. Distance is great. Or the public course in Lenoir, NC? Dont be that person, as how your club interacts with the turf is more vital in wedges than with any other club. What about this awesome drive from Dustin Johnson in Hawaii that everyone was talking about: So the drive went 433 yards. Do you suppose my distance is bs? Unlock the POWER Muscles in Your Golf Swing! There isnt anybody who wouldnt like to be able to hit the ball further. It's good for some laughs. The flight is reduced and the spin still remains. They must get club speed confused with ball speed, Cough Some people may exaggerate slightly , Hi My ball speed is with driver 195 km/h AND 160 km/h with a 6 iron Schaft = rgular or ???? Victoria II. Or should i take control on the distance i have? Optimizing a golfers distance with the driver (using their existing club speed) is an alternative way to effectively shortening a golf course. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. This put him near the bottom of the pack. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. Thanks to this impressive article, they will help more and more those who want to play golf. me too! Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. This is so I could hit it higher and spin it more, enabling me to access that tough pin position. Yet I hit my driver 230 yards to what they say is average, 214. Golf Balls are a Problem, Most Popular Driver on LPGA Tour? I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. 5 Testers Needed! Titleist 913D3 9.5* Diamana D+ 72s The attention to detail from Bob Vokey is extraordinary and you can feel the change in strike as you try many different heads. My SM8 wedges are a few years old and have played over the recommended 75 rounds. Impacting the game through junior golf programs has always been an important part of his charitable giving. There is the same classic stamping on the sole with the BV logo in the middle, SM9 written towards the toe and Vokey Design nearer the heel. Jon Rahm - TrackMan Numbers - TrackMan Golf Due to the large volume of autograph requests, fulfillment of requests is not guaranteed. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Shaft:Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X, Irons: TaylorMade P770 (4-5), TaylorMade P7MC (6-PW) [/quote] I don't measure my driver distance either. Driver 6 Iron Brooks Koepka Related Posts Erik Van Rooyen Driver Numbers Sei Young They hit 52 gap wedges a stock carry distance of between 126 and 135 yards and carry 56 sand wedges an average distance of 119 to 124 yards. Too many people walking around either who hit one drive at 300 a round and the rest slice 100 yards that only go 200 straight trying to tell people how great they are at golf when in reality they take like 6 mulligans a round or guys that are actually really good think that they are the norm when in reality they are a small minority and golf would not even exist if it were not for guys like me . There is no age or nationality restriction for the AMA. Thanks for the post. Bob Vokey makes the best wedges for the best players in the world on behalf of Titleist. Both wedges I could spin and release depending on the swing I put on the shot, I was especially a fan of the lob wedge chip shot which stopped on the second bounce. Web2/27/2012 Justin Rose COMBINE TEST 1 | TrackMan www.trackman.dk TEST INFO Date:2/27/2012 Name:Justin Rose DOB:7/30/1980 Hcp:+5 Mode:Outdoor Location:Lake Nona Temp:78 F Wind:0-5mph Notes: TOTAL SCORE Driver Statistics (avg.) I'm not going to wear my body down trying to swing that club. When we compare these stock yardages for irons between the pros we get a consistent view of yardage which we can accurately compare across the players. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. As such, this article will focus on the performance of the average male amateur (AMA). Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] |K_ %E_{/{5* Bx2 @ xM6#N Shafts: Nippon N.S. Although there is a slow trend towards improvement, many in the golf industry wonder why progress has not been faster. How can that be true. Cobra Radspeed 5W RDX Blue, Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4i Tour AD DI Simmer down, all. Thomas, who was born and raised in Goshen, KY, played collegiate golf for the Alabama Crimson Tide. Trackman golf terms: What Trackman results mean Club head speed: Club head speed is the speed that the club head is traveling at when it makes impact with the ball. I also shot 86. Carry Distance 302.9 He is 180 ball speed off the driver with outstanding launch numbers. Those numbers seem about right. Not uncommon these days for elite swing speed link to What Irons Do the Pros Use? [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] Because winning money, titles, and shooting low scores doesnt involve all that much power hitting, especially with the irons. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: Mack Made Custom Blade. Torrey Pines South, huh? Join the Thomas family to help fund important programming for children in need, junior golf and military families. To help however answer the question as well as we can the table below shows the varying distances some of the top pros, including Tiger Woods, Rory McIlroy and Dustin Johnson, are hitting their wedges, together with the degrees of loft their clubs are listed at. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. Thankfully also the SM9s dont seem to be ripping the cover off your ball, but looking at the Trackman numbers the backspin was high which you'd expect from the milled grooves. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364404259' post='6707501'] This demonstrates that without changing technique and only changing strategy, the AMA can improve their performance. Ive played four rounds since reading this, and shot 81, 83, 79, and 78.

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